God save the motorist
A proposed scheme in Manchester to fit black boxes to cars and lorries, and charge a pay-as-you-go tax on each journey has prompted criticism from Christian Voice.
A “spokesman” for CV – which is described by the Manchester Evening News reporter as a “civil liberties action group” – said,
The technology they depend on will track every vehicle fitted with the `spy-in-the-car’ black box.
Motorists will be paying for the transmitter and for the miles they drive, but the spin-off is that the government will know where every car is at every moment.
So that is what God told Stephen Green last week when he cried out “Here am I, send me!”.
It does chime with the paragraph of the fantasy Queen’s Speech devoted to “restoring justice to motoring law” by banning speed traps and building roads. Amazing how Green’s obsessions are so in sync with those of the creator of the universe, isn’t it?
UPDATE: Green confirms that CV does “also monitor assaults on civil liberties” with a new post on the website. You don’t think Stevie-boy has been done for speeding in the past, do you?
That reporter for the Manchester Evening News obviously doesn’t do their research properly…. how could anyone possibly describe CV as a “civil liberties action group”?
Interesting how CV have gone for the privacy angle rather than what is the real issue here: this will essentially mean roads are for the rich, rather than for all.
I wondered about the ‘civil liberties action group’ tag too, but on the other hand, they don’t like civilisation and definitely don’t approve of anyone having the liberty to do things .. the only bit that doesn’t stand up is ‘group’. Does one geezer count as a ‘group’ just because he uses the Royal ‘we’?
‘Civil liberties action group’ is certainly an odd description. Although probably no more odd than it would be in the normal usage: to describe a body who represent the liberties/wishes of some people and not others: ie one particular group.
Well, he is very much in favour of husbands having the liberty to rape their wives; perhaps that’s what the MEN meant.
Gulp! Where did he say that?
Feck me but I never thought I would ever find myself agreeing with Chrisitan voice.
The government’s plans to satalitie track every vechile is an invasion of privacy. And the charges it plans to impose on motorists are yet another example of Blair and co ripping off drivers.
The government are using the global warming and climate change scaremongering as an excuse to hammer motorists in the pocket. All at the whim of environmental wacko groups like Greenpeace.
He said it in the Britain in Sin pamphlet, which was available on the Christian Voice website until their recent redesign. As I believe I’ve noted previously, Mr Green appears to have some highly unconventional attitudes in the matter of rape. Stuff like this from the January 2004 CV newsletter, about a then-current court case involving a woman claiming rape by some footballers:
“She went to a hotel room quite prepared to have sexual intercourse with one footballer, a stranger to her just a few hours earlier. She ended up, willingly or unwillingly, according to whose story one believes, being used by five of them. On the one hand, she may indeed have been raped by the other four. On the other, maybe she did it all willingly for a bit of excitement, but felt so disgusted with herself afterwards that she alleged rape. But it hardly matters. The sort of girl who is prepared to give herself that cheaply to a man she has only just met should not be surprised if he regards her as little more than entertainment, for himself alone or also for his dissolute and repellent friends.â€
Which, as I believe I said at the time, I find deeply troubling, especially if Mr Green is now trying to portray himself as a ‘civil liberties’ campaigner as well as an absolute moral authority.
What he is saying about the girls giving themselves away cheaply is absolutely true.
They should not expect anything but a bad outcome – and the same would be the case if a man gave himself away to a woman. One could say they are being naive – more likely they are letting their fun-loving / carnal nature get the better of them.
As for the footballers believing that they therefore have a right to rape – or even gang rape – all one can say is ‘Yeah, right’.
Ah. So basically, “they’re bloody whores and they ask for it”, then? And I’m afraid your mysterious little barb about ‘footballers believing that they therefore have a right to rape’ is rather lost on me, as it doesn’t appear to be based on anything I, Mr Green, or the previous posters have said.
Hi Joe-
Read my comment again. My comment puts men and women on an equal footing, whereas yours is a MCP stereotype. People are individuals not stereotypes.
Are you suggesting that ppl of either sex who just go off with someone they have just met – let alone go off and give their body to them- are not giving themselves cheaply?
Come off it, there are a lot of better options among the available societies – the only reason people are viewing a society that has such a custom as ok or normal is because they have had the bad luck to be born into that particular society, so it seems normal to them.
This reminds me of Gilbert/Sullivan ‘Pirates of Penzance’. The lad Frederick (I think his name was) had grown up on a ship where there was just one member of the opposite sex: an old woman. She therefore seemed beautiful to him – because he had no others to compare her with. If we broaden our horizons & get an international perspective, then it will be open to us to choose the best available options rather than just ‘follow the crowd’ of our own culture.