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By: mediawatchwatch.org.uk » Manchester Cathedral “forgives” Sony

mediawatchwatch.org.uk » Manchester Cathedral “forgives” Sony — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:07 +0000

[…] Sony set a scene of its video game “Resitance: Fall of Man” in Manchester Cathedral, the Church demanded […]

By: martyn

martyn — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:24:30 +0000

‘cartoons slandering Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)’

pbuh?? what’s that stand for then? Paedophile be upon her, as in his pre teen wife?

By: Stuart

Stuart — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:53:29 +0000

It’s arguable that it’s not ‘their’ cathedrals to protect, but ‘ours’ – on basis our ancestors built em & involuntarily paid for the upkeep for centuries!
The definition of ‘private’ or ‘public’ property also seems to change when they want public money to preserve ‘national monuments’, or to avoid being taxed as a rather large corporation.

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:50:25 +0000

Yeah Daniel. If Christ had had an Uzi, things would have been different for those Romans I can bet.

By: Peter Gasston

Peter Gasston — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:41:50 +0000

I don’t remember any such complaint from the church in France regarding a shootout with zombies in Notre Dame in the game Timesplitters 2…

By: ZombieHunter

ZombieHunter — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:10:55 +0000

I honestly hope that Sony doesn’t give in over this, my one main critisism of the video games industry is that they’ve sat back and done nothing while politicians and ambulance chasing lawyers and unelected pressure groups have slandered them and used them as a scpegoat for societies ills.

By: Matt Wardman

Matt Wardman — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:15:37 +0000

Andy L

>I do not believe that there is any sufficiently modern item featured in the recreation of the church that the CofE has a leg to stand on copyright wise

* I’m inclined to agree with you copyright wise – sense implies they would only rebuild the walls in the game.
* Access is a different matter, however – which depends on whether they (Sony or it’s agent – sorry forgot the name) took footage and a million legal nuances that noone will want to visit.
* If they did take footage without permission when it was needed, I’d suggest the outcome will be an apology + a reasonable (10s or hundreds of K not millions) donation to a gun crime project in Manchester. That would Sony a relatively cheap exit and some good PR, and not establish a precedent of free access to cathedrals for commercial filming.

OTOH, as you say, Manchester Cathedral (note: not the CofE) may be out too far on a limb.

Matt

By: Matt Wardman

Matt Wardman — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:08:13 +0000

>Matt, sorry, I was being lighthearted – taking offense at the comment that SF is not based on reality (when some of the best of it is).

Cheers. Matt

I’ll be returning to the subject, but not for a couple of days.

By: Andy L

Andy L — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:33:20 +0000

I have to say, from the footage I do not believe that there is any sufficiently modern item featured in the recreation of the church that the CofE has a leg to stand on copyright wise, and there is no chance that a trademark would be granted or saught for the design of a cathedral.

Which is no doubt why they have taken this to the media rather than just sending a lawyers letter demanding the game is taken off sale.

By: Daniel Winter

Daniel Winter — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:20:06 +0000

Christ didn’t die on the cross so you could shoot baddies in his house, Goddamnit! 😛 He died because… er… well, ’cause the Romans put him there!

And that’s why not to make a videogame in a cathedral!

Yeah, I sure showed you.