Comments on: Religious hate law clears commons

By: Christopher Shell

Christopher Shell — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:29:56 +0000

I hope so! Via an internal work email.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:56:20 +0000

Ann Cryer only rebelled by supporting an amendment. She abstained on the final vote. Only 4 Labour MPs actually voted against the bill.

Christopher, where did you hear about the demo? Is there another one planned for the Lords reading?

By: tom p

tom p — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:01:08 +0000

I couldn’t get out of work on Monday afternoon. Shame. Still, it wouldn’t’ve made any difference, with so many labour MPs convinced that (small c) conservative muslim leaders can ‘deliver’ them the ‘muslim vote’, they’ll happily do this to pander to them. It seems that politics in mosques is OK, as long as it’s ‘our’ politics.

By: Christopher Shell

Christopher Shell — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:38:45 +0000

Thanks for that, Monitor. The MPs seem well-informed enough to me.

The problem lies with the various important issues they dont touch on. E.g. the fact that the Bill did not define ‘religion’, which is surely a pretty vague word. This underlying problem was what led to all the proposed exception clauses.

By: Marc

Marc — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:36:07 +0000

Bugger me backwards! Looks like Charles Hendry has a shitload to learn about the Scientologists. That bunch are arguably rather *more* dangerous to the common man than the Satanists – who bizarrely are a creation of Christianity! Not a cult indeed – for once I have to admit Shell has a point, the politicians really don’t understand the issues.

Why shouldn’t someone believe in and worship poor old Stan? He has a bad rap from the Xians as it is; they invented him to show their own guys in a good light. At least Satanists keep themselves to themselves: they don’t try to take over schools, don’t openly criticise gay people and haven’t even tried to take over the world (except in the movies).

The even spend spend a lot of time with naked young girls. You know, I’m finding their ideas quite appealing…. 😉

By: Monitor

Monitor — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:43:41 +0000

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2005-07-11.602.0

By: Christopher Shell

Christopher Shell — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:44:51 +0000

The demo was Monday afternoon – plus a long queue to lobby MPs and simply to listen to the debate. Alas for a Labour voter like me, the word was that some of the Labour contributions to the debate were stereotyping/cliched & showed insufficient awareness of the issues. But we’ll have to await Hansard.

By: Andy A

Andy A — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:06:14 +0000

INdex on Censorship has a handy page of collected articles concerning this nonsense at http://www.indexonline.org/en/specialreports/uk-plan-to-criminalise-incitement-to-religio.shtml.

By: tom p

tom p — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:37:59 +0000

I knew there was a demo going on, but I didn’t know the day or time.
When was it?

By: Christopher Shell

Christopher Shell — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:45:38 +0000

Hey, where were you guys at the demo? I counted 99% Christians and one (suspected) Muslim. No-one admitting to being a humanist. Comedians? That’s a ‘laugh’….
Give them a hard time, you have my full backing.